Comments on: Mexico City IV https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv Casting a little flavor (and a few aspersions) on the world of food, drink, and life Mon, 05 May 2025 15:38:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1 By: More New Plates – SaltShaker https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-276316 Mon, 05 May 2025 15:38:50 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-276316 […] This is a wide tangent springing off an octopus dish that I read about from chef Enrique Olvera (Pujol) at his NYC restaurant […]

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By: 2016 in the Rear View Mirror https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-256685 Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:12:26 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-256685 […] Mexico City, Mexico: Pujol. […]

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By: The Mid-2016 Gastro Tour #8 – The Last Days of New York https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-252605 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:47:10 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-252605 […] 21st St., Manhattan – So this is the NYC offering from chef Enrique Olivera, the chef behind Pujol, where I had a fantastic meal in Mexico City a few months back. I already mentioned that […]

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By: The Mid-2016 Gastro Tour #4 https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-252439 Tue, 02 Aug 2016 19:20:49 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-252439 […] from the chef behind the elegant, tranquil, Pujol, where I’d had an alcohol-drenched, but spectacular tasting menu in Mexico City a couple of months back. Cosme, it turns out, is anything but elegant and tranquil, […]

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By: dan https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-250473 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:40:32 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-250473 In reply to jennifer rose.

I don’t think so – I think these are just different definitions in different parts of the Spanish speaking world for the same word. It’s not really surprising, I mean, I can look through the last volume of my dictionary and there are terms that have multiple, wildly disparate definitions, depending on where on the globe you are. I just didn’t think to ask because I recognized the words, I just applied the wrong meaning to them because I didn’t know the alternate one.

I think “shrimp scampi” comes into a similar category, because scampi is both the name of a creature (the Norway lobster, or Langoustine) which isn’t shrimp, and it’s also the name of a style of preparation. It’s not quite the same as simply a regional differentiation in meaning, but a case of a word that actually has two common meanings that aren’t directly related. I didn’t know we were sneering at the use of the dish’s name? When did that come about?

“Sauce au jus” is just someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about – unless, perhaps, like the double mole dish I described, they’re serving a sauce inside a jus….

The cases of names where people are taking a word and extending knowingly to apply to something that they know it doesn’t actually mean – like my example of carpaccio in yesterday’s post – are another arena to discuss.

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By: jennifer rose https://www.saltshaker.net/20160311/mexico-city-iv#comment-250472 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:28:54 +0000 https://www.saltshaker.net/?p=17875#comment-250472 Are pepitoria and confusing names for lobster and shrimp just another form of CuisineSpeak, only at a higher level than the “shrimp scampi” and “in its own sauce au jus” that we sneer at?

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