Comments on: The New Kid http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid Casting a little flavor (and a few aspersions) on the world of food, drink, and life Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: dan http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid#comment-97163 dan Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:49:27 +0000 http://www.saltshaker.net/20060706/the-new-kid#comment-97163 While I definitely agree that the various technical stuff didn't need to be gone into, and I do understand the intent (and did then) of the article, I'm still of the opinion that if one is going to present information, regardless of how "dumbed down" it is for whatever audience, it ought to be at least accurate - and given your clear ability to communicate, I guess my point was that you could have gotten that info across to your intended market with style and ease, rather than giving them "facts" that either just aren't so or are incomplete - even novices want to learn a little. I know the paper still exists, though I rarely see it anymore. I must not hang out at the right locations. While I definitely agree that the various technical stuff didn’t need to be gone into, and I do understand the intent (and did then) of the article, I’m still of the opinion that if one is going to present information, regardless of how “dumbed down” it is for whatever audience, it ought to be at least accurate - and given your clear ability to communicate, I guess my point was that you could have gotten that info across to your intended market with style and ease, rather than giving them “facts” that either just aren’t so or are incomplete - even novices want to learn a little.

I know the paper still exists, though I rarely see it anymore. I must not hang out at the right locations.

]]> By: Lucy B http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid#comment-97155 Lucy B Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:57:09 +0000 http://www.saltshaker.net/20060706/the-new-kid#comment-97155 Hi Dan Well, I have finally found your comments on my inaugural piece in TAT - many moons ago. Thanks for the compliments on my writing style and I hope you still pick up a copy of the paper regularly. As for your nitpicking. You must understand that that article was written for an audience without your wealth of wine knowledge and whilst, yes, there were some generalisations it was unecessary to include discussions about oxidisation, grape 'geneaology', volatile acidity and other wine geeky matters when the purpose of the article was to give people some confidence in choosing wines, to make good wines more accessible for all and for the wine world not to appear so snobbish! I'll also correct Lucy regarding my experience and qualifications so you don't think that I am bringing the term 'Master of Wine' into disrepute! After all I wouldn't want to mislead you. I am a linguist who happens to love wine and I work for a fine wine merchant. I am in the process of completing my WSET Diploma - in fact I should be revising at the moment. So, keep enjoying life in BsAs, sharing your wine know-how and keep reading the Argentimes! It's a fantastic city and an even more brilliant paper. Lucy B Hi Dan

Well, I have finally found your comments on my inaugural piece in TAT - many moons ago.
Thanks for the compliments on my writing style and I hope you still pick up a copy of the paper regularly.

As for your nitpicking. You must understand that that article was written for an audience without your wealth of wine knowledge and whilst, yes, there were some generalisations it was unecessary to include discussions about oxidisation, grape ‘geneaology’, volatile acidity and other wine geeky matters when the purpose of the article was to give people some confidence in choosing wines, to make good wines more accessible for all and for the wine world not to appear so snobbish!

I’ll also correct Lucy regarding my experience and qualifications so you don’t think that I am bringing the term ‘Master of Wine’ into disrepute! After all I wouldn’t want to mislead you. I am a linguist who happens to love wine and I work for a fine wine merchant. I am in the process of completing my WSET Diploma - in fact I should be revising at the moment.

So, keep enjoying life in BsAs, sharing your wine know-how and keep reading the Argentimes! It’s a fantastic city and an even more brilliant paper.
Lucy B

]]> By: dan http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid#comment-536 dan Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:24:44 +0000 http://www.saltshaker.net/20060706/the-new-kid#comment-536 Really, I did find the paper interesting, as I mentioned in the beginning. And while I do find the choice of the sports bar odd - mostly just because I don't find it to be particularly a part of Argentine culture - yes, it's located here, but its ownership, management, menu, entertainment, etc., are all oriented around US culture - for me, though obviously much more fancy, it's sort of akin to reviewing a TGIF or Planet Hollywood as somehow part of local culture. The wine article, given my own background, obviously bothered me. I think it bothers me more to find out that Lucy B is somewhere on her track to Master of Wine, having been through a good portion of that program myself. Since a huge part of that process is learning to research, verify facts, and then write well about them, the lack of the former two seems odd for someone with that level of background. Really, I did find the paper interesting, as I mentioned in the beginning. And while I do find the choice of the sports bar odd - mostly just because I don’t find it to be particularly a part of Argentine culture - yes, it’s located here, but its ownership, management, menu, entertainment, etc., are all oriented around US culture - for me, though obviously much more fancy, it’s sort of akin to reviewing a TGIF or Planet Hollywood as somehow part of local culture.

The wine article, given my own background, obviously bothered me. I think it bothers me more to find out that Lucy B is somewhere on her track to Master of Wine, having been through a good portion of that program myself. Since a huge part of that process is learning to research, verify facts, and then write well about them, the lack of the former two seems odd for someone with that level of background.

]]> By: editor http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid#comment-535 editor Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:51:37 +0000 http://www.saltshaker.net/20060706/the-new-kid#comment-535 hey there, No hate mail! Actually we are really touched you found our paper interesting (albiet incorrect in your eyes) enough to write about it on this site. We arrived here in March and have produced two papers so far - the third will be out this Thursday 14th July. In answer to your comments, we decided to write about Bolivia for two reasons - we wanted to acknowledge Morales' six months in power (especially as his stance on the gas issue is affecting Argentine politics) and the other is that we loved the article written by Jimmy Lloyd on the riots in 2003. The review on the sports bar was written by our US staff writer and I don't think it needs to be defended as it is a bar, located here, which both ex-pats and Argy's go. Also, in response to your comments on poor Lucy Barber's article - she has several diplomas in Wine Tasting, and is currently studying to be a "Master of Wine". I will pass your comments on to her, and perhaps you two can have dinner and discuss this further (would love to be a fly on the wall!). For my part, I thoroughly enjoyed reading her piece. Finally, in all seriousness if you would like to be our Food and Wine writer we would love to have you. So there! :) Cheers! Lucy (co-editor) The Argentimes, editor@theargentimes.com hey there,

No hate mail! Actually we are really touched you found our paper interesting (albiet incorrect in your eyes) enough to write about it on this site. We arrived here in March and have produced two papers so far - the third will be out this Thursday 14th July. In answer to your comments, we decided to write about Bolivia for two reasons - we wanted to acknowledge Morales’ six months in power (especially as his stance on the gas issue is affecting Argentine politics) and the other is that we loved the article written by Jimmy Lloyd on the riots in 2003.

The review on the sports bar was written by our US staff writer and I don’t think it needs to be defended as it is a bar, located here, which both ex-pats and Argy’s go.

Also, in response to your comments on poor Lucy Barber’s article - she has several diplomas in Wine Tasting, and is currently studying to be a “Master of Wine”. I will pass your comments on to her, and perhaps you two can have dinner and discuss this further (would love to be a fly on the wall!). For my part, I thoroughly enjoyed reading her piece.

Finally, in all seriousness if you would like to be our Food and Wine writer we would love to have you.

So there! :)

Cheers! Lucy (co-editor) The Argentimes, editor@theargentimes.com

]]> By: dan http://www.saltshaker.net/20060705/the-new-kid#comment-534 dan Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:37:10 +0000 http://www.saltshaker.net/20060706/the-new-kid#comment-534 I'm in trouble now... the editor of <em>the argentimes</em> just registered on my site... ;-) I’m in trouble now… the editor of the argentimes just registered on my site… ;-)

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