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	<description>Casting a little flavor (and a few aspersions) on the world of food, drink, and life</description>
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		<title>By: SaltShaker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Transforming Vegetables into Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.saltshaker.net/20060603/viva-italia#comment-168710</link>
		<dc:creator>SaltShaker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Transforming Vegetables into Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and one of my true favorite dishes that I&#8217;ve put together over the last few years - peppered mussels with risotto cakes, made from risotto alla salernitana. More mussels this time, and a smaller risotto cake - just [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and one of my true favorite dishes that I&#8217;ve put together over the last few years - peppered mussels with risotto cakes, made from risotto alla salernitana. More mussels this time, and a smaller risotto cake - just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SaltShaker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mix-and-Match</title>
		<link>http://www.saltshaker.net/20060603/viva-italia#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>SaltShaker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mix-and-Match</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the things I know about putting together a last minute dinner is that you don&#8217;t have time to make sure you have every little item you might need. So the best thing to do, is see what you already have on hand, get those all lined up, and then just run out and shop for the, hopefully, few things that you don&#8217;t. I&#8217;m a big fan of risottos and pastas, and so is my friend. Initially I was thinking about making the risotto cakes that I made for our Italian dinner, but those take a significant amount of time to prepare, plus we wanted a lighter dinner, so I eliminated the frying and went with just making a risotto on site. That meant prepping everything in advance so that all that was left was the half hour or so to cook the risotto just before dinner. As luck would have it, I was cooking chicken for dinner Monday, and I&#8217;d already tossed the carcass into a pot with some vegetables to make chicken stock; I had picked up a bag of shiitake mushrooms in chinatown over the weekend; I had a bag of radish greens left from making radish soup on Friday; and I had a box of Arborio rice. Shiitake and radish greens risotto was, well, obvious! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the things I know about putting together a last minute dinner is that you don&#8217;t have time to make sure you have every little item you might need. So the best thing to do, is see what you already have on hand, get those all lined up, and then just run out and shop for the, hopefully, few things that you don&#8217;t. I&#8217;m a big fan of risottos and pastas, and so is my friend. Initially I was thinking about making the risotto cakes that I made for our Italian dinner, but those take a significant amount of time to prepare, plus we wanted a lighter dinner, so I eliminated the frying and went with just making a risotto on site. That meant prepping everything in advance so that all that was left was the half hour or so to cook the risotto just before dinner. As luck would have it, I was cooking chicken for dinner Monday, and I&#8217;d already tossed the carcass into a pot with some vegetables to make chicken stock; I had picked up a bag of shiitake mushrooms in chinatown over the weekend; I had a bag of radish greens left from making radish soup on Friday; and I had a box of Arborio rice. Shiitake and radish greens risotto was, well, obvious! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
		<link>http://www.saltshaker.net/20060603/viva-italia#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I don't do it often, I like the idea of making my own stock.  I'm very proud of myself when I do.  From you, I learned how to make the corn stock (corn crab chowder).  I'm still excited about that.  It was all new to me.  From Stephen, I learned how to make shrimp and lamb stock.  I love to make chicken stock but more than often I'll buy it, beef, and vegetable stock from the store.  

You make it sound easy but I'm still impressed with the pasta making.  Interesting your pasta maker wouldn't make the type of pasta you wanted.  Good thing you were at his mercy.

Again, you make your dinner preparation sound very easy.  For me, that would be another story.  LOL!  Interesting to read how you plan it out.  Everything does work out.  Thanks for sharing all this with us!

Paz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I don&#8217;t do it often, I like the idea of making my own stock.  I&#8217;m very proud of myself when I do.  From you, I learned how to make the corn stock (corn crab chowder).  I&#8217;m still excited about that.  It was all new to me.  From Stephen, I learned how to make shrimp and lamb stock.  I love to make chicken stock but more than often I&#8217;ll buy it, beef, and vegetable stock from the store.  </p>
<p>You make it sound easy but I&#8217;m still impressed with the pasta making.  Interesting your pasta maker wouldn&#8217;t make the type of pasta you wanted.  Good thing you were at his mercy.</p>
<p>Again, you make your dinner preparation sound very easy.  For me, that would be another story.  LOL!  Interesting to read how you plan it out.  Everything does work out.  Thanks for sharing all this with us!</p>
<p>Paz</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.saltshaker.net/20060603/viva-italia#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm a big fan of making my own stocks. I tend to save bones and scraps of vegetables and such in the freezer, and then when I have enough stuff to make a stock of one type or another, throw it all in a pot and make it (yes, I'm over-simplifying it, but not by much). Then I usually just put the stock in various size freezer containers, label 'em, and freeze 'em for later use. The freezer's full of stuff like that. However, in terms of more common stocks, like chicken or beef,  if you don't go that route, it's perfectly acceptable to use pre-made stock - many a time at home in New York I've used Swanson's chicken or beef stock from a can. Here, canned stock doesn't even exist, everything is Knorr's bouillon cubes - in a bewildering array of flavors - I think there are about 2 dozen different types of Knorr broth cubes here. And when I'm cooking for just us here at home, or sometimes if I just need a particular "oomph" in flavor, I have no problem using them - especially if it's just a small amount in something.

Normally I wouldn't make pasta, but I specifically wanted to use fresh pasta, and when the guy near me who makes it wouldn't make semolina pasta for me, I had a choice of going with the plain flour/egg pasta he offered or making my own. Truthfully, especially because I have this silly pasta machine that someone gave me, that was easy - I literally tossed the ingredients into the machine, set it to "mix" and let it go for ten minutes. Then turned it off for an hour, came back and switched it to "extrude" (with the fettucine die on it) and it squirted fettucine out like nobody's business.

In terms of timing - almost everything for these dinners is done on the day of, unless there's a reason to do it in advance, like something that needs to sit for a day or two. I tend to shop the day before, and then start cooking mid to late morning the day of. For this dinner - I made the pickled peppers a few days before when I realized I wasn't going to be able to find pickled cherry peppers, which gave them at least a few days to sit in the brine; and I made the gelato the night before. The rest - day of. I know it looks like a lot, but... let's see, Friday morning I started around 10, popped out to the store for a couple of things I'd thought of since shopping the day before. Then, the first thing I do is write out a sheet of paper with every dish on it, what I have left to do, and how it's going to be plated, right down to the garnish and sometimes a quick sketch - some of that will change as the day proceeds, but it makes sure I don't forget something basic. By 11 I started the risotto - that was easy - chop an onion and the pancetta and open the package of rice (I'd remembered to pull out the beef stock from the freezer the night before, but even if I hadn't since I was bringing it up to a simmer, it just would have taken a few minutes longer. All old to the point where it was spread out and cooling on a pan about 40 minutes. Didn't have to do anything with that until just before cutting and cooking the cakes later. Cleaned the mussels and stuck them back in the refrigerator - 5 minutes or so. Most time consuming was making the cookies - the batter was easy, but I only have enough room in the oven for about a dozen at a time and I needed two dozen or more to make sure I had good looking ones - so it took three rounds in the oven, total about 45 minutes. The gelato was already done from the night before (that's more a function of how long your ice cream machine takes to mix and freeze the stuff). Made the pasta, 2 minutes to throw stuff in the machine, then later about 10 minutes to extrude it all and hang it up to dry. Pork chops - all they needed was a little trimming - 5 minutes. The beans I'd thrown in some water to soak but since they were fresh, didn't need much. Put them in a pot to simmer for a couple of hours, later added a chopped shallot and some chopped radicchio. Other than that, a few minutes here and there to pre-chop some garlic, slice the peppers, pick the herbs. So all told, other than the final cooking it really only took about 2&#189; or 3 hours to make all this stuff, spread out over the day. It just seems like a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m a big fan of making my own stocks. I tend to save bones and scraps of vegetables and such in the freezer, and then when I have enough stuff to make a stock of one type or another, throw it all in a pot and make it (yes, I&#8217;m over-simplifying it, but not by much). Then I usually just put the stock in various size freezer containers, label &#8216;em, and freeze &#8216;em for later use. The freezer&#8217;s full of stuff like that. However, in terms of more common stocks, like chicken or beef,  if you don&#8217;t go that route, it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to use pre-made stock - many a time at home in New York I&#8217;ve used Swanson&#8217;s chicken or beef stock from a can. Here, canned stock doesn&#8217;t even exist, everything is Knorr&#8217;s bouillon cubes - in a bewildering array of flavors - I think there are about 2 dozen different types of Knorr broth cubes here. And when I&#8217;m cooking for just us here at home, or sometimes if I just need a particular &#8220;oomph&#8221; in flavor, I have no problem using them - especially if it&#8217;s just a small amount in something.</p>
<p>Normally I wouldn&#8217;t make pasta, but I specifically wanted to use fresh pasta, and when the guy near me who makes it wouldn&#8217;t make semolina pasta for me, I had a choice of going with the plain flour/egg pasta he offered or making my own. Truthfully, especially because I have this silly pasta machine that someone gave me, that was easy - I literally tossed the ingredients into the machine, set it to &#8220;mix&#8221; and let it go for ten minutes. Then turned it off for an hour, came back and switched it to &#8220;extrude&#8221; (with the fettucine die on it) and it squirted fettucine out like nobody&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>In terms of timing - almost everything for these dinners is done on the day of, unless there&#8217;s a reason to do it in advance, like something that needs to sit for a day or two. I tend to shop the day before, and then start cooking mid to late morning the day of. For this dinner - I made the pickled peppers a few days before when I realized I wasn&#8217;t going to be able to find pickled cherry peppers, which gave them at least a few days to sit in the brine; and I made the gelato the night before. The rest - day of. I know it looks like a lot, but&#8230; let&#8217;s see, Friday morning I started around 10, popped out to the store for a couple of things I&#8217;d thought of since shopping the day before. Then, the first thing I do is write out a sheet of paper with every dish on it, what I have left to do, and how it&#8217;s going to be plated, right down to the garnish and sometimes a quick sketch - some of that will change as the day proceeds, but it makes sure I don&#8217;t forget something basic. By 11 I started the risotto - that was easy - chop an onion and the pancetta and open the package of rice (I&#8217;d remembered to pull out the beef stock from the freezer the night before, but even if I hadn&#8217;t since I was bringing it up to a simmer, it just would have taken a few minutes longer. All old to the point where it was spread out and cooling on a pan about 40 minutes. Didn&#8217;t have to do anything with that until just before cutting and cooking the cakes later. Cleaned the mussels and stuck them back in the refrigerator - 5 minutes or so. Most time consuming was making the cookies - the batter was easy, but I only have enough room in the oven for about a dozen at a time and I needed two dozen or more to make sure I had good looking ones - so it took three rounds in the oven, total about 45 minutes. The gelato was already done from the night before (that&#8217;s more a function of how long your ice cream machine takes to mix and freeze the stuff). Made the pasta, 2 minutes to throw stuff in the machine, then later about 10 minutes to extrude it all and hang it up to dry. Pork chops - all they needed was a little trimming - 5 minutes. The beans I&#8217;d thrown in some water to soak but since they were fresh, didn&#8217;t need much. Put them in a pot to simmer for a couple of hours, later added a chopped shallot and some chopped radicchio. Other than that, a few minutes here and there to pre-chop some garlic, slice the peppers, pick the herbs. So all told, other than the final cooking it really only took about 2&#189; or 3 hours to make all this stuff, spread out over the day. It just seems like a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
		<link>http://www.saltshaker.net/20060603/viva-italia#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  This all sounds great!  And you made your own pasta?  Double wow!  How long did it take you to prepare all these recipes?

You mention veal stock for the risotto.  Where do you get the veal stock?  Boiling veal?  Is there a substitute?

Paz *bowing before the Cooking Master*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  This all sounds great!  And you made your own pasta?  Double wow!  How long did it take you to prepare all these recipes?</p>
<p>You mention veal stock for the risotto.  Where do you get the veal stock?  Boiling veal?  Is there a substitute?</p>
<p>Paz *bowing before the Cooking Master*</p>
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